Urim & Thummim

February 16th, 2022

What was their true nature and purpose?

Common interpretation teaches us that these stones – called abnay zeekawrone in Biblical Hebrew – are “stones of memorial.” However, forty years of research and analysis through 19 ancient languages in use around the time of the Ark of the Testimony (commonly Ark of the Covenant) revealed that rather than benign objects, these stones appear to be “stones of communication” … critical components at the heart of an ancient, lost system used to “talk” with God.

“This book is in many ways a magisterial work … I am amazed by the range of ancient languages called on for parallels to Biblical Hebrew terms. I found especially compelling the extensive discussion of radioactivity in connection with the cloud and the ark as receptor as well as the explanation in this connection of the urim and tumim and the ephod.” ~ Dr. E. Isaac

Why did noted biblical scholar Jacob Milgrom call Talking With God “an enormous imaginative work” and “a modern midrash?”

Winged discs, a universal symbol and possible pattern for the cherubim

It’s because Talking With God takes on some of the most puzzling Hebrew Bible passages. It’s because Talking With God propounds such a controversial conclusion about the nature of the Ark and many of the objects and practices surrounding it.

It’s also because Talking With God delves deep into the Biblical Hebrew texts to uncover the true purpose of the Ark. On deep examination, these ancient words and phrases, assembled piece-by-piece, reveal the long lost meanings of puzzling passages that have confounded laypeople and biblical scholars for centuries.

Talking With God offers a challenging, controversial view of what the Israelites experienced, and why understanding of that experience has shifted so dramatically over time.

“…It is very well-written: accessible, easygoing, and able to make a complicated subject easy to follow. Jargon and obfuscation have practically become the hallmarks of the academic literature of the present era, and I can’t tell you how pleased I was to see such simple, clear writing … the book looks terrific–great cover, layout, fonts, images–really first-rate!” ~ Richard Russell, MD

What’s inside Talking With God?

Talking With God is a rich trove of religious, historical, etymological, and scientific information. The book was written to make very complex ideas accessible to everyday scholars while rich enough for academics. Inside you will find…

  • 514 pages with sidebar references to relevant bible verses;
  • 63 illustrations including historical plates secured from the Oriental Institute and other academic bodies;
  • Findings and results from the exploration of digs and sites throughout the Middle East;
  • An extensive bibliography that includes more than 100 pages of detailed background;
  • Index of 19 ancient languages including Ugaritic, Egyptian, Sumerian, etc.

Talking With God answers many age-old biblical questions including …

  • What was the true purpose of the Ark of the Testimony?
  • Why did people die when they touched the Ark?
  • What was the real reason for God “visiting the iniquity of the fathers” on the “third and fourth” generation of their sons?
  • Why was the purpose of the Israelites’ sacrifice different from that of the countries around them?
  • Why don’t the words “holy” mean holy, “sin” mean sin, “glory” mean glory?
  • What is the soul and exactly where is it located?

Even more, Talking With God is a resource for deep study and discovery for those who are as curious about the original text of the Bible and the true meaning of puzzling Bible passages and words. For scholars of the Bible, the methods described offer a unique approach to decoding passages of deep interest.

If you love learning about the Bible for yourself, get Talking With God.

If you feel there’s more to know about Moses and his experiences, get Talking With God.

If you want to get past the Hollywood interpretations of these biblical passages, get Talking With God.

Talking With GodTalking With God: The Radioactive Ark of the Testimony
by Roger D. Isaacs

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